Stargo!
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Post by Stargo! on Oct 31, 2008 22:32:53 GMT
Mmmm... All I have to do now is get the evil to go back in the box.
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Post by mate on Oct 31, 2008 23:22:50 GMT
When you find the box stargo I will help you put the evil back in  .... The reason why I would prefer to go towards Pandora's box is because the only kids Adam and eve has were their two sons, who did the two sons have sex with to get more children?? MUM... SO we are all inbred and incest if you follow the Adam and eve story... Not a pretty picture now is it? Just think your boyfriend is your long lost BROTHER!!!!!!!
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Stargo!
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Have fun sitting at home. {{I'm out to rule the world}}
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Post by Stargo! on Nov 1, 2008 21:00:05 GMT
Yea. I have heard that all females are related.
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Post by norsu on Nov 1, 2008 21:29:17 GMT
Here is my opinion on it:
When God created the world, he didn't want it to just be filled with a ton of goody-goody-two-shoes that sucked up to him all the time, he knew that humans would not be like that. He is wise and knows what he is doing, and whether you believe in God or not evil does have a place on this Earth. Think of it this way: you listed murder in your moral evil. Does that mean that a cougar killing a rodent to eat it for it's supper is evil? No. God knew that some things wouldn't survive without evil, and he created evil for that purpose. Tsunamis are like the great flood that Noah and his family survived. God promised that he wouldn't create another great flood, so he created "evil" tsumanis. That is how I think of it.
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Post by Lawrence on Nov 1, 2008 21:36:43 GMT
interesting idea, but that seems to me a way of worming out of arguing for the possibility of there being a God, and just a way of saying that whatever is in the world is part of Gods plan, even if it contradicts what is traditionally the definition (or an arguement for) God.
thats the way i see your arguement - its not right or wrong obviously, just my opinion
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Post by norsu on Nov 1, 2008 21:58:12 GMT
Yeah, I know it is veering a bit off track, but it is just explaining some of the reasons for evil, which is right on track. See what I mean?
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Post by mate on Nov 1, 2008 23:53:03 GMT
I see what you mean but it just fit the puzzle properly, cougars kill to survive murders don't kill other people to survive. cougars don't kill other cougars now do they? No they kill prey like how we kill prey to live we don't kill other people to live.
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Post by mate on Nov 2, 2008 3:01:28 GMT
Yea. I have heard that all females are related.
Great so I am going out with my sister.. But really EVERYONE would have to be including males. Lets say Their sons had sex with eve, if they had a girl and boy and they had sex, even the males are going to related to, so really your parents are brother and sister, your boy/girlfriend is you brother/sister, so in the eyes of "God" we are all sinning without even knowing it... |
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Post by norsu on Nov 2, 2008 13:30:29 GMT
Not technically sisters/brothers, we could be cousins, aunts, uncles, grams, gramps, the list goes on and on!
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Post by Reef. on Nov 2, 2008 17:16:25 GMT
norsu, your point about some evil being needed makes sense, because a lot of things we view as evil are based on our own standpoint and are good in the eyes of someone else. And the freewill defence, God could have created us all unable to choose evil but then we would be no better than angels. we need suffering to mature from being in godbuts image to being in god's likeness
but i do agree, even if you can have evil and suffering along side the classical theist god, i'm still atheist. i think pain being a result of an evolutionary survival mechanism and suffering being the result of a planet not suited to us is far more acceptable that god working in mysterious ways
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Post by mate on Nov 2, 2008 23:17:33 GMT
In my opinion, this sounds whack but it is what i believe. God, so to speak, is a great mass of energy which created evolution, and that is how we have become what we are today. Yeah it sounds wake, but hey, its just as crazy as saying our Lord, Jesus Christ, was a carpenter that lives thousands of years ago....
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Post by Reef. on Nov 3, 2008 11:53:28 GMT
it doesnt sound crazy, deist views are quite common these days... do you believe God created the universe or is he subject to natural laws too?
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Post by mate on Nov 3, 2008 12:41:27 GMT
No big bang crap, he created the spec that continued to form into the planet or a star then blah blah blah, you get what I mean? That is how I believe, because other planets are older then others. Then everything just fell into place like it is doing now. Though our world has crumbled before, it was reborn, so it will just continue to be that way. Even if we do end up wiping out humanity.
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Post by Lawrence on Nov 3, 2008 17:16:49 GMT
so you believe that there was no big bang? that god created the universe and that the planets will be reborn and have been reborn from earlier times?...
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Post by mate on Nov 3, 2008 23:53:15 GMT
Not re-born exactly, when the earth went through its Ice Age then rejuvenated.
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.... The reason why I would prefer to go towards Pandora's box is because the only kids Adam and eve has were their two sons, who did the two sons have sex with to get more children?? MUM... SO we are all inbred and incest if you follow the Adam and eve story... Not a pretty picture now is it? Just think your boyfriend is your long lost BROTHER!!!!!!!
